Episode 96

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25th Oct 2024

Ep 96. Creating Functional and Beautiful Family Spaces w/Jenna Morrow

In today's episode, I'm sitting down with the fabulous Jenna Morrow, founder and principal designer of Morrow Design Studios. Jenna is an amazing self-taught interior designer and a true example of balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship.

Together, we dive into Jenna's journey from corporate marketing to full-time interior designing, inspired by the birth of her daughter and her fight with postpartum anxiety. She shares her top decor tips for making your home stylish and functional even with little ones running around. Plus, Jenna offers practical advice on managing a business while being present for your family as a mompreneur.

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You are now tuned in to the mom CEO suite podcast.

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I'm your host, Felicia, wife, mom and

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entrepreneur. In this podcast, I'll be sharing my mompreneur

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journey along with strategies that will help you build your online

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business operations in a sustainable way. The goal is

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to help you build a business that fits into your lifestyle as a mom who

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values putting family first. We will also hear the

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experiences and expertise of other moms with service

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based businesses. You'll get a peek into our journeys, so you'll

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know that you aren't alone. Motherhood gets hard.

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Entrepreneurship gets hard. But together, we can

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do hard things. Welcome to The Suite.

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Hey friends, welcome to another episode. Thank you so much for being here. I

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am very excited for today's episode. We have a guest with

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us in the suite. Our guest today is Jenna Morrow and she is

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the founder and principal designer behind Morrow Design

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Studios, which she opened in 2021 following an

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intense battle with postpartum anxiety. She's a Philadelphia

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native, so she's no stranger. to strength and grit, but

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both were threatened after the birth of her first child. She sought

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professional help from a therapist who offered a variety of coping

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mechanisms, including the 5 4 3 2 1

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method, which encourages you to tap into your five

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senses to bring you out of an anxious state and into the present

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moment. And it was during this exercise that Jenna

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realized her home was not an environment that supported her

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anxiety as it lacked a sensory experience.

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And so her design firms mission was

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conceived. Jenna is also a multiple sclerosis

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warrior. She was diagnosed in 2012 and has been an

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advocate for MS awareness by sharing her story and

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supporting various organizations. So

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welcome to the suite. Jenna, how are you today? Hi, I am

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good. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited for this. Yes, I'm

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excited to, and you guys, I know I talk about this a lot on the

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podcast now, but Jenna and I actually connected randomly on threads.

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So y'all, if you are not on thread, it

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is so easy to connect with people over there and we found out we're both

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from Philadelphia and we're both in the DMV area now, Yes.

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Yeah, your shot. It's fun over there. Jenna,

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tell us a little bit more about you yourself and just what

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you do through your business. absolutely. So like you said, I am

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Jenna Morrow, Philly native, go Eagles. And I live in the DC

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area, um, where I run my interior design firm that focuses primarily on

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residential projects, but we also dabble in commercial projects. And so

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just like you said, when you read my introduction, thank you for that, by the

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way. Um, You know, I want to make sure that when people look

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around at their homes, they see a home that identifies with who they are, but

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also one that supports their mental health, supports their overall

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wellbeing and then supports their goals in life. I always

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say we design for who you are, where you've been, but what also

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for who you aspire to be. And I think having all of those factors in

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a space is really important. So that is what we do.

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Love that we don't get to talk much about that here on the podcast. We

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talk a lot about business and just navigating mom life and things,

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but I don't think we really realize how much our

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surroundings and our home has an effect just on

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Like I mentioned in your bio, you know, it wasn't good for your postpartum anxiety.

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And so I'm glad we're having this conversation today. since we mentioned

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that, do you mind talking about what that kind of looked like for you when

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you were going through postpartum anxiety? what were some of the,

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symptoms or things that you were experiencing? Um,

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Just so people can understand what that really looks like, because I

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believe that some people really are going through it and they just don't really know

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because they are just tough and we're used to pushing through things.

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So can you talk a little bit about what that looked like for you? And

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I was actually one of those people, so I never knew.

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I heard people say, Oh, I had anxiety, but I never knew what that meant.

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And so I always knew in my life, though, I constantly chalked it up

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to I'm a worrier. I worry a lot. I worry a lot because I heard

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my mom saying that. So when I had my daughter

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Harper, that was in the thick of the pandemic. She was born October 2020.

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And when we brought her home, I was scared because I have MS. So I

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was a part of that immunocompromised group. And I have this little baby who is

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also a part of that, you know, immunocompromised group. And so

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I had this intense fear and worry,

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at least so I thought that's what it was that Something bad was going to

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happen to my daughter. She was going to catch COVID. She was going to pass

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away. I was going to catch COVID. I was going to pass away. So that

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started the fear. And then the anxiety just kind of went into

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over overload because suddenly it

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wasn't just COVID that I feared it was our safety in general.

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And so there were things such as if I had to take her to the

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doctor, I couldn't drive her there by myself. I

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would have an anxiety attack. My husband was like, why don't you go for a

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walk by yourself? You know, just enjoy some time away from her. And I had

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a full blown anxiety attack. I'm using that language now because I know what it

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was now, but then I didn't understand it. But what it looked like was

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me just crying uncontrollably, my heart racing, and I didn't

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understand what it was. But after it happened continuously

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in April of 2021, I had 17. panic attacks

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in that month alone. I started keeping count. So finally, the

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last one I had in April, it was really bad. And my husband

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looked at me and said, I think we have to get you help. And I

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said, you know what? I think we do too. Because I can't live like this.

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When you're a mom, you're a mom for the rest of your life.

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And I was like, I don't want to go through life with this feeling and

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this quote unquote worry, which became, which was

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anxiety. And I was like, I want better for myself. I

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want better for my daughter because I did have a little black girl. And I

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was like, I don't want her seeing her mom, you know, this ball of

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tears every time she had to leave the house or go do something.

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So I was, fully accepting of the fact that I needed

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help. And so I got it. And then that's when I got the therapist who

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introduced me to that 54321 method that you mentioned.

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That's really interesting. Thank you for sharing that when it comes to

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the anxiety piece, was that something that you experienced?

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you had your child, it was that triggered simply by giving

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birth. It's something looking back and having talked to

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a therapist. It's something I had my entire life,

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Okay. it was far worse when I had a baby.

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But I was I was a student in school who, if I knew the answer,

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of raising my hand, I would start sweating, my heart would start

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racing. And so I just wouldn't raise my hand. And so

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like, I've always had anxiety. No one knew it though.

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Psychiatrists, um, that I have now, you know, has given me medication for it,

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which I'm, I'm fully, you know, accepting a saying. And I

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joked with him and I said, Now, if I had had this about 20 years

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ago, I could have gone to Harvard. I'd probably be a CEO of some

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major company. I was joking with him, obviously, but I was just thinking

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this has been so transformative for me as an adult. I could only

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imagine how transforming my life would have been in my more

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formative years. Had I had that support then.

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That is so interesting. When you mentioned, you know, not wanting to raise

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your hand as a child. Like I definitely experienced that too. Even

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making phone calls when I was like in my younger adulthood,

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I would like have to pump myself up to just make a simple

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phone call to somebody. And I never thought that it was like anxiety or I

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never thought anything of it. I just thought, Oh, this is my personality. This is

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how I am. But now hearing you share your story, it's like, Oh,

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maybe that was something else. Maybe. Maybe I should talk to

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somebody about that. So that's why I love people to share

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their stories and I really dig deeper into like common language that we

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always say, but we never really unpack. Like, what does anxiety really look

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like? So thank you so much for sharing that. Um,

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now what was it? Okay. You went through the therapy. What was

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it going on in your home that you realized it wasn't conducive for your

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anxiety? Like, how did that. Part unpick. So

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in my, um, the home we were living in was our first home that my

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husband and I bought, you know, ever. And so when I was decorating it, I

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was just like, okay, I need a picture here. And I wasn't too

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focused on, you know, it needs to be a picture of this to reflect Jenna

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and Jenna's interest. That wasn't going through my mind at all. I was just

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thinking, I need a picture that contains this color. That's this size. And it needs

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to go right here on the wall. So when I was doing the five, four,

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three, two, one method, the way it works is. I may mess this up a

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little bit, but you have to name five things you can see, four things you

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can feel, three things you can

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see, two things you can hear,

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and one thing you can taste. And so when I was sitting,

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I would do it in my living room because that was the room that You

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know, made me come to life in hindsight. It was the

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room that had the most natural light. Therefore it supported my anxiety. And again, these

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are all things I didn't know at the time, but I love that room and

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gravitated to is that's always where I did the five, four, three, two, one method,

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and I would do five and I'm like, okay, five. And then when it got

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to like four, five things you can touch, I didn't have a lot

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of different textures in my living room. I had maybe like.

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Three. And again, because I wasn't going for texture, I was going for

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a look. I was like, it's our first house. Let's fill this, let's fill it

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up. It doesn't matter how. And then when it got to things like

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scent and even hearing, I'm like, this doesn't reflect

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me. Jenna likes natural light. So I want to be able to see the

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outside in a room that I'm in. I also love, love, love

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music. Nineties R& B. Like that's it for me. So, you

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know, I didn't have a speaker in that room. I didn't have

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anything in that room going on to kind of help ground me when I was

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going through that. And so every time I did things I could hear, I'm like,

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I hear a lawnmower, but there's nothing grounding about a

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lawnmower or soothing about that. You know, if I wanted to change my

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environment to reflect Jenna, reflect what uplifts

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me, what inspires me, and also what grounds me when I am having those moments

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of anxiety, doubt, imposter syndrome, and so on.

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This is so intriguing like as you're talking I'm thinking about how

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For me to feel, I don't want to say safe, but for me to feel

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like I can be productive in my work, like my space has to be a

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certain way. Like it has to be clean. I need to have a candlelit, all

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these things. Right. So a lot of our audience are moms who

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work from home as well. So can you kind of share

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just some tips related to how they can create that

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environment that's, you know, reflective of them, all the things you were just

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saying, like it helps to ground them and helps them just to be more

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productive as well. For sure. So I think you have to just

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like you said, determine what factors will keep you inspired and

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focused when you are working for me. I need natural light.

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You cannot put me in a windowless room and think I'm going to get anything

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done. So that's the first thing. Determine what those

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factors are. But then, you know, You know, the easiest way to do it is

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actually through your five senses. So how does it smell?

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If you struggle with focus, maybe you need sage or cinnamon because

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they help with focus. Maybe you need that a candle that smells like that in

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the room. Um, or if you're someone who needs some sort of music

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playing, when I was in college, I only studied to music.

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And so when I started working, I'm like, clearly I have to work to

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music, but maybe you're somebody who like, I can't focus if there's a lot of

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background noise, like somebody, my neighbor's cutting the grass. I can't get any work done.

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So that's you. Then you need to get some noise canceling headphones, but you have

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to think about your five senses and then create that environment

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where you work. And I think sometimes, you know, We

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don't always look at home or our offices or even our offices at

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home as sensory experiences, but that's essentially

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what they have to be. And they have to be tailored to what it is

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that makes us feel good about ourselves. And so when you think about

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decorating and designing as a sensory experience, that's

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only going to elevate and positively impact your

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productivity. That's so

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good I am interested to know, like if

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you have any tips as far as how moms

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can they're doing the sensory thing, you know, making it

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conducive for themselves. How can they bring

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their style into their, their environment, but

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also making it, you know, like childproof conducive for a family,

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right? Because those two things, sometimes it can be hard to match them.

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So do you have any tips for that? Yeah. So the first thing I

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always tell my clients. Is your furniture will

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be as good to you as you are to your furniture. So if

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you have a house where I know some people who, you know, they let their

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family eat on the couch, more power to them. But if that's the

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case, that white couch, that is your style.

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You gotta let it go. It's not gonna, it's not gonna fit in that living

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room because your family is allowed to eat. And there's no white couch that will

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sustain a family that eats on it regularly. So we have to

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be realistic about. Our lifestyles and

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the behaviors that are within our homes. And so

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if you, if you have a style, that's not conducive to the behaviors of your

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family and your kids, then you have to compromise a little bit.

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The second thing is there's literally nothing wrong. And whoever tells you there's something wrong

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with it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with combining high

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end pieces with budget friendly furniture. I do it all the time in

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my house and clients homes. And I have two toddlers.

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So I always tell clients and myself that when you are combining high

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end and budget friendly, the thing you want to do is invest in your bigger

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pieces and then go budget friendly for your smaller pieces. So

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think about a dining room table or dining room, for example. So you want to

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invest in the dining room table because one, they're expensive. You don't want to keep

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buying a new one, you know, every couple of years, but then go budget

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friendly on the chairs. And I say that because those chairs with kids

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are going to see the most Accidents are going to see spills, maybe some

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footprints here and there. Um, and then you go affordable

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with the area rug, for example, under the table. Cause that's also, you know, high

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traffic, but then you go high end on that chandelier that's above

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the dining room table. Cause that's again, an item you're not going to swap in

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and out every couple of years. And don't be afraid of dupes. Dupes

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are phenomenal. And what a dupe is basically is a

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cheaper version that, you know, looks a little bit different from

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a more expensive item. There was a marble bistro table I

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wanted so bad from CB2. It wasn't in the budget, and it

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also wasn't conducive to a family with two toddlers, so I opted

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for a dupe. From Amazon that was like not even a quarter of the

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price and it's been holding up perfectly and serving his purpose. So

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don't be afraid of dupes. Another thing I want to say is be mindful, not

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just of the durability of the items you buy. Like, yes, they have to be

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durable with kids, but you also have to consider how it's cleaned. And I think

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that's something a lot of people overlook. You have to read the cleaning

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instructions before you invest. So some furniture will say like spot clean

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only, and some will say professional cleaning only. If you have

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kids, you don't want either one of those options. You have to go for something

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that you can, you yourself easily clean with gentle

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soap and water, even a cleaning solution that is specifically made for that

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fabric. And then lastly, there are other ways to

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incorporate your style beyond furniture, like have fun with

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the features of your home and also with the decor. So when I'm speaking about

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features, I'm thinking of wall molding, I'm thinking of wallpaper.

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Then when it comes to the decor, you've got curtains, you can have fun with,

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throw pillows, wall art. There are so many ways to include your

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style that will work in a home that has kids, and I don't want

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anyone to overlook that. So your style can certainly come

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to life in a home with a boring couch. Because you have kids

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by way of your decor and even the features of your home. Oh,

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my goodness. Those were some great, great tips getting me so

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excited over here. So as you're talking, like, if you guys are listening, you

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can tell you're an expert at what you do. Right? So I'm

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interested to hear more about your journey. Like, how did you kind of

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stumble into interior design? Were you

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introduced to it somehow when you were younger? Did you know somebody? Did you

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go to school for it? Like, how did that unravel? Yes. So I am

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one of those people who was self taught. Um, if you look at like

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Shay McGee or Joanna Gaines, I'm a part of that tribe. We are all

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self taught. So I fell into it when I was little, my mom always

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jokes that we would go to someone's house and it was well decorated. I would

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come back to our house and then start rearranging things. So I guess it kind

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of started there, but I was always drawn to creativity and

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art and, When I was in school, those were my electives. And so as I

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got older, it wasn't until my husband and I bought our

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first house. That I started to really, you know, there was

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space and opportunity for me to make it come to life. And I was like,

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Oh, I like this. This is fun. So I started a blog and then that

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led, and I started posting on social media that led to friends asking me to

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help them with their homes, which led to becoming

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clients to me, but I was in corporate America doing marketing at the

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time. And so I was like, I can't, you know, it's just not realistic to

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do both. I was a newlywed. I was like, I want to, you know, have

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fun too. And so finally, uh, after my daughter was born, when I was

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going through that postpartum anxiety was my husband who said to me, you

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should quit and pursue design full time because you're really good at it. Just

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naturally and quitting and allowing me to do it full time also

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created space and opportunity for me to. Teach myself even more

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because I had more time and flexibility to do so. So no, I didn't go

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to school for it. I was just always drawn to creativity and art

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and according to my parents, decorating and

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doing it in my home caught the attention of others. So I got to start

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doing it in their home. I love that. I always

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love hearing people's story because it's never what you think it's going to be right.

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never is. And it's just so interesting to hear how people kind of got to

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where they are today. It's always like a combination of these

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experiences and and now they're here, but it's never like a

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linear path, right? Agree. so wow.

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So you started your business recently. You just are naturally gifted

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in it. And so your first child, you said was born

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during the pandemic. So how

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are you managing the intersection of motherhood and

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entrepreneurship? Because I feel like that all kind of happens around the same

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time. So how have you been able to manage that? What are the things that

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help you in that intersection? I do, before

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I answer this one, just say. Although it may look

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easy from the outside, looking in from the inside, it's,

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it's extremely hard and I wouldn't even say I'm

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managing. And I would say I'm juggling it as best I can. So the

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way I'm doing that is one discipline. So I have a routine during the week

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that I try to follow as much as possible. And that's, that's for home,

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but also for business. And I try to treat my business the way I

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treat it, my nine to five. So when I worked in corporate, I No matter

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what kind of night I had, if I tossed and turned and got two hours

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of sleep or eight hours. Better believe I was at my desk at 9

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a. m. And so I like to give my business the same treatment and the

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same respect. Now, if I had to step away and take a nap during the

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day, that's my business, but I do my

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best to maintain discipline with my work, my

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job, and also with my, my family. And I say

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discipline because discipline trumps motivation every single time.

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Second, I would say flexibility. So I'm really strict about what my goals

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are, but I'm very flexible about my methods and the way that I

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achieve them. And so as a mom, you know, I have to be. I got

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a call a couple weeks ago from my daughter's school that the power went out

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because of a storm. And so You know, of course that impacted my day,

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but motherhood has truly taught me the importance of adaptability. And so I had to

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be adaptable that day. And in most cases, just about every week,

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but adaptability is, is good because it has,

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it's an essential part of running a business. You

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have to be flexible and adaptable because things are changing. I mean,

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AI, look at AI. You have to adapt and learn how to use it or

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else it's going to be running. Your business, you know, how do you make it

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work with your business? Social media is always changing. So there has to be an

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adaptability at work and at home as a mom,

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who's also an entrepreneur and then, um, do not

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disturb. So I'm an iPhone user. If anyone listening

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also is too, you probably use it, but do not disturb. I have fallen in

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love with that feature. And so when I'm in deep focus mode

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at work or when I'm tending to, you know, my house, I

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limit everyone's access to me. by selecting do not

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disturb. And I do this because I discovered that a

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major part or major cause of my overwhelm was

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trying to do too much at once multitasking. I would be

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changing my daughter's diaper while reading a text message. And so finally I was

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like, girl, what are you doing? This isn't life or death. The text message

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can wait. And so I couldn't lend my

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focus to just one area. I was trying to lend it to

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multiple at once. And that just turned me into, you know, big ball of stress.

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So my whole life is on my phone, which

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is why my phone is what gets that do not disturb.

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arrangement because I need life beyond

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what's in front of me to pause so I can focus on what I need

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to get done. So I shut off notifications, the calls, the likes, the email

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popups, everything pauses so I can focus and steady my

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pace. And the last thing is I minimize distractions

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when I'm with my kids, our time,

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even with my husband too, like our time is our time. And so when I

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started my business, Not happy to say this, but I'm sure many moms can

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relate. I would be the mom who would be replying to an email while my

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toddler's saying, Mommy, Mommy, watch me or watch this. And after a

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while, it was just like, you know what? She doesn't deserve this. So now

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my time with my kids is, is important and

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it's our time and everything else can wait unless it's urgent. But if it is

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urgent, I'm, I'm that mom who is not afraid to

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communicate with my kids and say, Hey guys, listen, mommy has to do

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something for work for five minutes. Can you, can you give mommy five minutes? And

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they'll say, okay. I do that though, because there's a couple, a

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couple of reasons. One, I want them to know that mommy does work and is

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chasing her dreams, which I hope one day empowers them to do the same.

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Two multitasking just isn't ideal. You just heard me talk about

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what, what it did to me. Right. And I want them to know it's

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okay to put something down in order to pick something else up. You

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don't have to hold both at the same time. Three, I don't

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want them to be strangers to work. Because it is something that all of

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us must do at some point in our lives. And I don't want to shut

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them off from the concept of work, no matter how young they are.

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And then four, I want them to know that mommy's life can be

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inclusive of work and family. But it requires mommy

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juggling. It requires mommy pausing work for, you know, an hour to play with the

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kids or Paul causes mommy to tell the kids let's pause for five minutes. So

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I can tend to work. I want them to witness mommy

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juggling. So they grow to understand that as they get older,

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because as women, that's kind of what's required of us,

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according to society, that's kind of the box that society puts us in.

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And so they're going to be a product of that too. And so, but I

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feel like. You know, achieving all of that starts with being

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open with them about work so they can understand what it is and why

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it's important. That was so Very

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sorry. Well,

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so I hope you guys were taking notes. I think a lot of what you

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said, though, was really relatable. Um, and you're speaking a lot

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to what we talk about here on the podcast often, you know, just having

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your priorities and having those boundaries, not just

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boundaries for like the family, but boundaries for the business. So you can be

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fully present with your Children in the moment. Okay. Um, but then

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also that communication piece. I like that you included that, like, okay,

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if there is something that you do need to address with the business, just communicating

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with your children or your family, that that's what it is. So

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that they are, you know, that they understand what work is because like you

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mentioned, they are going to have to, um, at some point be in that

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same, space. So I, I love, I love, I love that mini

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masterclass you just gave us. Um,

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That was really good. So you mentioned how motherhood,

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uh, let me see, what did you say? It helped you to be more

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adaptable. And so I know motherhood

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kind of teaches you a lot of different things, how to be adaptable, how to

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be flexible. I did an episode about how it helped me be a better business

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owner. So for you, how did motherhood though, how

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did it prepare you for managing a team?

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yes, because before starting this business, I had never managed a team.

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So I, just like I was new to motherhood in 2020, I was new to

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managing a team in 2021. But I would say there's three ways for

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this one. So one, all of us receive information differently.

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I can't instruct both of my kids the same way. And

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that's also the case when you manage a team, some have a bevy of questions

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when you share instructions and others may need time to

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process and then come back to you with questions. And then you may have someone

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who just gets it right away, but sharing information or

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instructions. In one way doesn't mean that everyone

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understood it the same way. And so just like, you know, your kids will,

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you have to get to know each member of your team so you know how

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to effectively lead them. And this requires patience with the

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process of leading because you won't know How every team member

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receives information from day one. It takes time. Your kids are

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born. You don't, you know them, you know, when they're born, but like

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over time, you're going to get to know their personalities and their ticks and all

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that. It's the same thing with a team member. You have to take time and

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be patient with the process of getting to know them. The second thing is

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perspective is in the eye of the viewer. You can put 10

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people in front of one piece of art. Okay. All 10 are not going to

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have the same perspective of that piece of art, and that's okay, right? I

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think those differences in perspective are where true influence

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and innovation lie. But as a leader, and as a mom, I feel

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like it's important to pause and understand what my kids

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and my team see. I may show both of my

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kids a really tall slide. My oldest daughter may be like, this looks like

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fun because she's a little daredevil. While my youngest daughter, who's a little more cautious,

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she may see it and think, oh my gosh, this looks terrifying. And both

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perspectives are right. Because they're theirs.

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So you have to practice as a leader, just like you do as a mom,

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active listening to hear what your team members are seeing.

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And then you have to understand why, why are you seeing it that way? How

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have your past experiences led you to this perspective? So I

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think that's also important. And then third,

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affirmations are essential. As a mom, my

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kids faces light up when I affirm them. If I'm like, Oh, you

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look beautiful. Or I love your hair or your dress is so nice. Or simply,

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I love you. They truly value knowing I see them. And as

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a leader, it's the same thing. We have to have empathy towards our team members.

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You know, all of us know what it was like. the

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leader. We all started there right in our careers. And so we

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have to empathize with their position and understand what's required

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of us as leaders to make them feel safe, appreciated

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and value just the same as we do as moms towards our kids.

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And so to me, You know, empathy is the hallmark of good

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leadership. And when you operate from a place of empathy and

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compassion, you'll always have team members who are willing to support

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you. Just the same as if you operate from that place as a mom, your

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kids will always, always love you. That was so

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good, Jenna. Oh my goodness. Empathy is the hallmark of good leadership. I'm not

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even going to add anything on top of that because you just said it

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so, just so gracefully and wonderfully. Um, I'm

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curious though, About your team. Did you

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start out your business with the team or was there a period where it was

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just you? And then, well, how long was that period between when it

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was just you? And when you hired,

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Um, it was, so I started the business August of 2021,

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hired my first team member. I think it was April of

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2022, or maybe it was June. I think it was April. So it was me

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for how many months? And Eight months. okay. I was by myself for the

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first eight months. Um, and then, yeah, hired my first team member in

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April and then a second one. And then, you know, I had to

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make some adjustments. So both of them are no longer with me. They were full

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time employees. They are no longer with me. And I added 2 more who were

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full time contractors. So I prefer that

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method. I, you know, if you want me to explain why I'm happy to, but,

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um, I chose the contractor model because that was just a

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smart decision. Yes. I know. Yes. You can go

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ahead and expand on that. I know some people are like, Oh, what's the difference?

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So go ahead. Explain your Yeah. So if you have a

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full time employee, there are a lot of other responsibilities that come with,

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with, you know, that such as you have to provide, you know,

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healthcare. You have to provide, um, unemployment insurance.

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There are a lot of things that you have to provide to them. And there

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are also a lot of protections that they receive, which I think is great.

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But if you're a new business, you may not have the

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financial means to provide. All of that to them.

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And then with contractors, you know, the reason I was

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Indecisive about which way to go in the beginning was because with contractors,

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it's a little tricky about their schedules. They completely own their

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schedules. So it's not one of those arrangements where you can tell them what

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to do. They operate on their own time. And that's by

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law, whereas an employee. You can kind of dictate

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their day. We need to have a, you know, a weekly meeting at 12 every

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Wednesday and a meeting on, on Thursdays it's at four.

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So I, I gravitated to that at first, but now that I've done the

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contractor model, you know, I'm kind of void of any

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major responsibilities like the health insurance and unemployment insurance.

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Um, and then also taxes. They pay their own

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taxes. I don't have to do anything with their taxes. If they were

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employees, that's a totally different story. So it's just a simpler

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model. It's easier to manage, and when it comes down

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to the, the paperwork and the backend operations of it all con, the

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contractor model is a lot easier, especially in the beginning of your

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career as a business. Yes, there definitely

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are major differences. And so if you are in that space where you're thinking about,

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you know, hiring definitely consult with a

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professional to kind of give you all of the pros and cons

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and what would make sense for you and your business. So I'm glad we were

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able just to touch on that a little bit lightly. Um, but this has been

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so good. Oh my goodness. This conversation literally could go on forever,

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but. Um, let people

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know just how they can connect with you. Where are you? Are you on

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social? And just what does it look like to work with you?

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Yeah. So where I am, I'm everywhere. Just like, you know, Felicia said at the

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beginning threads. Um, but of course, because I'm on threads, that means I'm on

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Instagram. Jenna DeMauro. I'm also on YouTube as

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Jenna DeMauro. Everything is Jenna DeMauro. If you're looking for me, Pinterest,

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TikTok, it's all Jenna DeMauro. And then my business is

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Morrow Design Studios. Like you said, at the beginning, my website is morrowdesignstudios.

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com. And what it's like to work with me, I always say, and you'll find

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this on my website, you embark on a journey of discovery. And that's what it's

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like working with me because I will, you know, want to hear your life story.

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I want to hear about your past, your values. And I want to use that

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to inspire the way we decorate and design your space. And

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it's, you know, I'm very, I love the fact that we do it in a

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way that you wouldn't expect. And I think that's what makes us unique. The

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other thing, because I do have multiple sclerosis, when you do work with me, you

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support the MS society because a percentage of every project is

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donated to the MS society in hopes of finding a cure.

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So I think working with us is fun. I think

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it's impactful. I think it's, you know, it's just

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one big journey of discovery. And I think in the end people

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learn to value and appreciate their homes even more because it truly reflects who

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they are. So, so good. So

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guys, we will put all of Jenna's info in the show description so you

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can click all the links, get connected, um, set up a

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consultation. If you're just interested in working with Jenna or finding

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out more about how she may be able to help you with your

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interior design. This has been an amazing episode. Thank you guys

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for tuning in. Thank you, Jennifer, coming on, and we'll see you in the

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The Mom CEO Suite: Life & Business Systems for Mompreneurs Seeking Work Life Balance
Life and business systems strategy to help work from home mom entrepreneurs find work life harmony
Are you struggling to stay productive with constant interruptions from your kids while working from home? Does juggling it all leave you feeling overwhelmed and stretched too thin? Are you dreaming of work-life balance, but it feels out of reach?

You can have that reality where business and life integrate harmoniously, so you’re able to be a present, peaceful mom plus have an impactful business.

Hey Friend! This is The Mom CEO Suite and I’m Phylicia Pough, a Christian wife, mom of 2 and life and business systems strategist for moms.

I understand your daily juggling act, and I’ve discovered the secret to achieving the work-life balance you’re craving; so you can finally experience true harmony between your business and family life.

The Mom CEO Suite Podcast is your go-to resource for learning how to create and implement life and business systems that actually work for you as a busy, faith-driven mompreneur. You’ll get practical tips, easy-to-follow strategies for leveraging systems and automations to help you balance running a business while raising a family.

Plus, I’ll guide you through simple ways to build life and business systems that make sense for your unique situation. And because we’re all in this together, you’ll hear real stories from fellow moms, reminding you that you’re never alone on this journey.

After listening to the podcast, you will shift from feeling overwhelmed, disorganized, and stretched too thin to becoming more empowered, organized, and capable of running your business and household with more ease and a greater sense of harmony.

I can’t wait to help you create the life and business you’ve always dreamed of, full of balance and peace. Let’s make it happen together!

Motherhood gets hard. Entrepreneurship gets hard. But together, we can do hard things.

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Phylicia Pough

For over 10 years, Phylicia has been behind the scenes of businesses and ministries, keeping things organized. Her journey started in Administration and developed into Operations & Automation Consulting

Her latest venture is The Mom CEO Suite which is a community for the modern day mom in business. In addition to curating experiences and safe spaces for mompreneurs, we automate business & podcasting processes for mompreneur service providers.

In her spare time, Phylicia loves to travel, read and sip tea.